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Wayne
07-15-2005, 05:10 PM
I've known this one guy online for a long time, we loaned stuff back and forth occasionally and just helped each other out overall. Anyway, a few months back I loaned him a dragon longsword and a rune pickaxe. Soon after he got hacked and lost it all, and decided since he was hacked I had no right to have my stuff back (it's been 6-8 months, he's a decently strong character again). Anyway, our conversations have been kind of funny since he's constantly denying that he owes me anything. Since he's so contractory, I figured we could all get some laughs out of it anyway. Here's some quotes of our recorded conversations:

Terrogator: but either way, this is only a game, not realy, but real people.
Me: real people, real and binding agreements.
Terrogator: That *******ares about.
Me: You've told me twice you hate me and five+ times you won't pay me back.
Terrogator: correction, I said you hate me 3 times, and I won't pay you back 6 times.
Me: Correction noted.

Following the above conversation...

Me: ok, you owe me a d-long and a r-pick.
Terrogator: no I don't.
Me: yes you do.
Terrogator: Let me guess, your angry over a game.
Me: No, I'm a bit disappointed in you though.
Me: Like I said, I thought I could trust you.
Terrogator: yeah some bs like that.
Terrogator: whatever then and I thought you where of this earth
Me: aren't i?
Terrogator: probably not.
Me: wow, I didn't know I was an alien. cool!
Terrogator: alright and I don't know you didn't want to be friends.

This happened after I told him I wouldn't enter into any trade deals with him until after he paid me back.

Terrogator: but we can't though from what you said.
Me: I know, sorry. =\
Me: we can deal if you pay me back.
Terrogator: Yeah, in other words, no more trading, so we can't trade at all anymore.
Me: well, you did steal 120k worth of stuff from me.
Terrogator: oh, from now on, whenever you say that, I'm not talking to you.
Me: that's your choice.
Terrogator: although you are trying to destroy our friendship, we still chat huh?
Me: certainly.
Me: since I'm not trying to destroy our friendship, we can chat.
Terrogator: at least, unless you want to destroy something else?
Terrogator: you can't trust me, so why would I trust you especially in the wildy.
Me: because I'm a sworn anti-pker and I don't backstab folks.
Terrogator: if I saw you.
Me: you'd die if you tried.
Terrogator: well, actually, in that case, I would have someone else do it.
Terrogator: that wierd dude he's a lvl-88.
Me: heck, let's have a war. I know several lvl-100s. =]
Terrogator: but I couldn't possibly be that mad at you.
Me: This could be fun.
Terrogator: f u
Me: lol

This one kind of got hilarious. I have no clue if WG would show for something like this or not, would have been cool though. =]

Terrogator: so, nice weather huh?
Terrogator: perfect for swimming would you say?
Me: actually, it's pretty nasty in the abyss.
Terrogator: well, why don't we both go over there, I have some friends that can get nasty if they need to.
Me: don't we all.
Terrogator: and lets clear the area of pkers.
Me: I can probably call up 10-20 lvl 85-110s in a days notice, u?
Me: my clan doesn't like pkers that much
Terrogator: they are always in the wilderness?
Me: 'course not
Terrogator: these are kind of like you guys except they protect people for a small charge
Me: these guys only charge the chance to kill pkers
Terrogator: with those big hammer things
Me: granite mauls? we'll slaughter them. =]
Terrogator: because you're bringing them up against us in a war?
Me: why would I do that?
Terrogator: just saying, maybe with them, your group will be even bigger.
Terrogator: is that what you where planning? geez
Me: of course not, I was responding to your threats.
Terrogator: threats? oh it's on.
Me: lol
Terrogator: ask your guys if they're willing to go up against the strength of the wg's.
Terrogator: wilderness guardians rule the wildy dude. =]
Me: they're not my guys, they're just pk guards.
Me: they're probably our allies then.
Terrogator: you seem to be able to
Terrogator: duhh I said that
Me: lol

This one followed him accusing me of being rude when I told him I was hacked and it cost me the same amount of cash he owes me to replace stuff I had from other people (which is true).

Terrogator: that was what you just said
Me: me telling you to stick it would be rude, but I'm not k?
Me: and I wont.
Terrogator: then don't even go there
Me: just said I wouldn't
Terrogator: sure, also acting like I have to give you 120k.
Me: you're a wierd little man terrogator.
Me: you take my stuff and then don't give it back
Me: then you yell at me for wanting it back
Terrogator: no I'm not, these are freaking words, I'm laughing.
Me: you wheren't laughing last time when you said f u
Terrogator: no, I was constantly laughing
Terrogator: I had to stop playing for a bit to get some water.
Me: cut the **** and face the fact that you stole my stuff.
Terrogator: no not really, because you clearly gave it to me
Terrogator: but nevermind that
Me: I loaned it to you, bit difference there
Me: you said you'd give it back when you where a member again
Me: you are now
Terrogator: no I'm not, I'm in a free world.
Terrogator: and I'll give it back whenever I'm a member for 1 year.
Terrogator: just to make your real life happy.
Me: lol
Me: you think I'm actually mad?
Me: I'm just disappointed that you'd rob me.
Me: I trusted you dude.
Me: and you stabbed me in the bank.
Terrogator: ha, the words coming up so slow make it seem like it.
Me: ?
Terrogator: also, I never stabed anyone in the back.
Terrogator: except with a battleaxe when they picked up a rune plate body
Terrogator: but aht doesn't matter, I killed them.
Me: up to you dude, I can't force you to play fiar.
Me: if you play rotten, then you play rotten.
Terrogator: first ovetr all, I don't lie, ****** or steal, so I will pay you back.
Me: cool now would be good
Terrogator: but these insultar constantly delayin g when I feel like
Me: I got hacked and I need some cash
Terrogator: giving you 120k.
Me: well, the recordings of this conversation should give me...
Me: and some friends a few laughs maybe.
Me: along with the previous ones.
Terrogator: can I have them? it will get me tired?
Me: it will get you tired?
Me: eh, this is pointless. cya around I have some stuff to do.

Kind of pathetic huh? I took him off my friends list for a while and put private chat to friends only. We've had tons of conversations like these, kind of funny actually. These where the only ones I recorded, to bad really. Some of them where much better. =]

PS: He is a member now by the way, he was logged on a p2p world within the last month, I saw him.

hurmo
07-15-2005, 06:00 PM
Lol he denies that he owes you money in one conversation and in the next he says he will pay you back when he is a member. He better learn to stick with one story.:rolleyes:

Iron
07-15-2005, 06:33 PM
just, tell him that you will battle him for it, in the abyss, so that you are both skulled, and you trade him to make sure that he has it before the battle, but yea, he sounds kinda stupid, no offence, but i couldnt like him

Wayne
07-15-2005, 06:41 PM
He was a descent enough guy, he joined the first DarkLegion clan way back in classic that me and a friend started and ran until it fell apart a little while later. Our conversations now are kind of funny, I do wish he'd just pay me back though.

Iron
07-15-2005, 06:46 PM
so you think he still has it or got hacked???

Wayne
07-15-2005, 09:08 PM
He did get hacked, but that was months ago. Just the other day he was telling me about all this stuff he had bought. He also was extatic that he had got members again (which he denied like a few minutes later even though he was on a member server).

ironman13000
07-15-2005, 09:18 PM
lol thats crazy but what are you to do theres people like that all over rs

niall 2k5!
07-15-2005, 09:57 PM
well ive had sorta the same thing happen 2 me but it was over doin dragon slayer quest with my clan m8s about 5 started callin me a scammer coz i killed the dragon with my m8s but i got last hit walked off got rune plate then i rememberd that my clan m8s all gave me 1k n they started pm me hey scammer i want my 10k i was like wdh
that was a very long story

Mike
07-16-2005, 02:01 AM
thats y i dont lease out stuff besides close freinds that i know where they sleep (H)

x_laceration
07-16-2005, 02:11 AM
Eh, I havent found any particular person that I completely trust yet...though I have made a few decent friends (points to Eregion) ;)

Wayne
07-16-2005, 02:24 AM
Thanks X. =]

I did think I could trust him though Assult, we had loaned stuff back and forth before and he didn't back out of his end of the deal. Oh well, it was only a d-long and a rune pickaxe, could have been worse.

GimliTheDwarf
07-16-2005, 05:38 AM
Eregion, that guy ripped you of something most of us probably won't see for QUITE some time... And I'd trust him, but it'd take ALOT of rare items or even a LONG time for me to trust him fully, and he owes you every part of it.... Who here likes my Sig??
http://www.rsbandb.com/sig/sigs/m/mithrilgimli.png:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

xxskullxx
07-16-2005, 05:56 AM
You sig looks like everyone elses sig *shrugs*. Personally I don't like it.

Mike
07-16-2005, 06:19 AM
u r teh l337!!11oneone11!

xxpk.or.diexx
07-16-2005, 06:21 AM
Still, Eregion: There are ppl like that all over rs. Even my best friend, who i know personally, "borrowed" my rune pick, promising to cut me into his coal-selling (10%-90%-I got the 10), plus 500 coal for upfront rental, and 1k coal for every week extra he borrowed it. Needless to say, he paid 18 of the upfront, and then he gave me my rune pick, and he hasnt even given me money for the coal, or the extra 4.5 k coal.

Wayne
07-25-2005, 03:50 AM
The confrontation continues...

Terrogator: I sold a str amulet for 8k.
Me: Nice.
Terrogator: Got 3 free diamonds in 1 week.
Terrogator: And in 2 days, i get 2 gems per mining trip.
Me: And yet you refuse to pay me back? *sigh*
Terrogator: I have never refused to.
Terrogator: I said I would.
Terrogator: Since you think it's so important to you.
Me: "In a week, then when you're a member, then a month, then a year, then when you're a member for a year"
Terrogator: Yeah.
Me: None of those things have an baring on paying me 120k.
Terrogator: Probably next year, depends on when I get to be a member really.
Terrogator: Really, it's kind of funny if you keep whining about it
Me: I'm not whining, I'm disappointed in your lack of honesty as I've said before.
Terrogator: Ok, now it's kind of sad you say I'm lying. (good Lord, can't believe he said that)
Terrogator: But you know i already said I was going to pay you back.
Terrogator: Basically when I feel like it.
Terrogator: But I already gave several posibilities on when I'll pay you.
Me: Excuses.
Terrogator: You done talking about this.
Me: I guess, it never gets anywhere. You keep making excuses.
Terrogator: Umm... it's not really an excuse, i just don't want to right now.
Terrogator: Not an excuse.
Me: Forget it, you're laughing.
Me: Yeah, good point.

Next time he's online I'm giving him a short message to the effect of "Welcome to Eregion2's Ignore List". Should have done it ages ago.

ur pimpness
07-25-2005, 04:15 AM
i would never lend ppl stuff thats worth 30k and over

DarkChrono
07-25-2005, 05:04 AM
Eregion... the guy is still talking to you. This means he doesn't have any friends and he's quite lonely. In the conversations I've seen on your first post, he said he won't talk to you yet he still does. What you do is not trust him anymore. Give him a deadline when to pay back, or tell him to stfu. Probe him into paying you back, or tell him to talk to me. I might be able to piss him off a little. He's fighting to not pay you back, you're just letting him pummel you. If you can, use his words against himself. Repeatively ask questions on answers he gives you from questions you've asked before. Being apathetic is good also. Like he said he "sold" a strength amulet for 8k, say "So?" and follow up with a comment he said in previous conversions. Next time he tells you that your whining, say this... "Ok, if I'm whining, give me 240k and I'll pay you all 240k later in a month. I'd like to see if don't whine at all".

Otherwords, you're being too much of a nice guy. Using the persons words against him is a good way to fight back.

Iron
07-25-2005, 06:38 AM
good use of words chrono, yea eregion do that

Wayne
07-25-2005, 02:08 PM
Otherwords, you're being too much of a nice guy.I know that, it's gotten in the way before. He doesn't really care though, he just laughs like it's some huge hilarious joke. He knows there's no way I can get back at him, so he's got the high-ground in all our conversations. I'll see what I can do though. I was tired during our last conversation that I just put down, couldn't think straight to keep him on the defensive.